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mirkwood:

Now imagine you’re an “objective” racist white scientist who decides to give a group of black men a STI and, instead of treating them for it, watch them slowly suffer from it so you can study it FOR SCIENCE.

Yes, Tuskeegee was JUST LIKE the Inquisition (1100-1800).

Now imagine you’re the white supremacist sexist medical establishment that denies women the right to get their tubes tied unless they already have loads of kids and require them to get their husband’s permission while at the same time forcibly sterilising legions of native and black women.

That’s because some sexes/races are inferior. No? If only there were a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge to disprove such a claim.

Now imagine you’re an “objective” racist psychologist who decides that slaves wanting to escape is a psychological disorder called “drapetomania” and the “cure” for that is lashings and cutting off toes.

You can do much, much better. You can find some evil bastards who were doing actual science. For that matter, highlight Oppenheimer.

Now imagine that you’re the “objective” and “scientific” medical establishment that deems queerness a disorder and decides that electroshock treatments or lobotomies are the effective solution or feels the need to “intervene” by surgically altering the bodies of intersex infants to fit your perceptions of what genitalia should look like.

And the sins of pseudo- and unethical science ARE ON PAR with the Catholic Church’s millennia-long record on matters LGBT.

Religion has done a lot of fucked up shit. 

GO ON.

But I’m sick and tired of people acting like SCIENCE hasn’t been involved in wars, death, and genocide either.

And one time Thag used flame to start fire in cave! Me sick of Thag saying flame better than Sky Father!

And it’s the assumptive bullshit notion that ALL religions are somehow stupid

It’s the polar opposite of “assumptive” if we can agree on what constitutes “bullshit.”

and not worth your consideration that perpetuates this colonialist bullshit approach that white people have now upon Native and other individuals when tribes fight for the right to their sacred lands of, “Oh you’re religion is just hooey!” 

 You’re not talking about science. You’re not even talking about religion. You’re talking about politics.

First they “civilised” us with religion and now it’s science and repatriation. Stealing native lands and native artifacts and native bodies FOR SCIENCE so you can profit off of them.

I missed the part where Marie Curie gives the natives smallpox blankets.

If you’re going to lay in on the death religion causes, IMO you better realize that there’s a difference between the bastion of white supremacist cisheteropatriarchy that is modern Christianity and other religions which have little in the way of social power in comparison.

DULY REALIZED. And there’s a difference between ebola and strep throat. But as much FUN as they are, we’d prefer to keep BOTH the Jehovah AND gem crystals away from the kids, because both tend to produce poor outcomes.

AND you better recognize that science can be just another extention of white supremacist cisheteropartiarchy too and FURTHER the goals of that power structure rather than being as “objective” as they claim and countering it.

Yeah, the Establishment’s a real bitch(!) amirite? The struggle for cultural competency continues apace.

Haha. Imagine that.
Also, Ricky Gervais is a jerk.

A jerk using satire to advance atheism, not the ethical lapses of BIG SCIENCE. But don’t let us stand between you and that red herring.

mirkwood:

Now imagine you’re an “objective” racist white scientist who decides to give a group of black men a STI and, instead of treating them for it, watch them slowly suffer from it so you can study it FOR SCIENCE.

Yes, Tuskeegee was JUST LIKE the Inquisition (1100-1800).

Now imagine you’re the white supremacist sexist medical establishment that denies women the right to get their tubes tied unless they already have loads of kids and require them to get their husband’s permission while at the same time forcibly sterilising legions of native and black women.

That’s because some sexes/races are inferior. No? If only there were a systematic enterprise that builds and organizes knowledge to disprove such a claim.

Now imagine you’re an “objective” racist psychologist who decides that slaves wanting to escape is a psychological disorder called “drapetomania” and the “cure” for that is lashings and cutting off toes.

You can do much, much better. You can find some evil bastards who were doing actual science. For that matter, highlight Oppenheimer.

Now imagine that you’re the “objective” and “scientific” medical establishment that deems queerness a disorder and decides that electroshock treatments or lobotomies are the effective solution or feels the need to “intervene” by surgically altering the bodies of intersex infants to fit your perceptions of what genitalia should look like.

And the sins of pseudo- and unethical science ARE ON PAR with the Catholic Church’s millennia-long record on matters LGBT.

Religion has done a lot of fucked up shit.

GO ON.

But I’m sick and tired of people acting like SCIENCE hasn’t been involved in wars, death, and genocide either.

And one time Thag used flame to start fire in cave! Me sick of Thag saying flame better than Sky Father!

And it’s the assumptive bullshit notion that ALL religions are somehow stupid

It’s the polar opposite of “assumptive” if we can agree on what constitutes “bullshit.”

and not worth your consideration that perpetuates this colonialist bullshit approach that white people have now upon Native and other individuals when tribes fight for the right to their sacred lands of, “Oh you’re religion is just hooey!”

You’re not talking about science. You’re not even talking about religion. You’re talking about politics.

First they “civilised” us with religion and now it’s science and repatriation. Stealing native lands and native artifacts and native bodies FOR SCIENCE so you can profit off of them.

I missed the part where Marie Curie gives the natives smallpox blankets.

If you’re going to lay in on the death religion causes, IMO you better realize that there’s a difference between the bastion of white supremacist cisheteropatriarchy that is modern Christianity and other religions which have little in the way of social power in comparison.

DULY REALIZED. And there’s a difference between ebola and strep throat. But as much FUN as they are, we’d prefer to keep BOTH the Jehovah AND gem crystals away from the kids, because both tend to produce poor outcomes.

AND you better recognize that science can be just another extention of white supremacist cisheteropartiarchy too and FURTHER the goals of that power structure rather than being as “objective” as they claim and countering it.

Yeah, the Establishment’s a real bitch(!) amirite? The struggle for cultural competency continues apace.

Haha. Imagine that.

Also, Ricky Gervais is a jerk.

A jerk using satire to advance atheism, not the ethical lapses of BIG SCIENCE. But don’t let us stand between you and that red herring.

“They get so religiously extreme that they deny reality. They’re like, ‘Gay doesn’t exist. You don’t see gay in the natural world.’ You know what I don’t see as much in the natural world? Angels—those are half-human, half-bird creatures, everybody. The devil is half-man, half-goat. 
I’ve seen more gays, is all I’m saying.”
—Myq Kaplan

They get so religiously extreme that they deny reality. They’re like, ‘Gay doesn’t exist. You don’t see gay in the natural world.’ You know what I don’t see as much in the natural world? Angels—those are half-human, half-bird creatures, everybody. The devil is half-man, half-goat.

I’ve seen more gays, is all I’m saying.

—Myq Kaplan

skepticalavenger:

The more I read about Mother Teresa, the more I think her mind fractured when she couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance between what her faith was telling her and what reality was telling her.
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skepticalavenger:

The more I read about Mother Teresa, the more I think her mind fractured when she couldn’t handle the cognitive dissonance between what her faith was telling her and what reality was telling her.

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James Gurney’s terrific fantasy art will eventually lead you down the rabbit hole to this totally serious, not-at-all-joking, biblical fanfic Dinosaurs of Eden, which I may or or may not have just purchased on Amazon for $11.19.

You Are Boring

yourmonkeycalled:

Everything was going great until you showed up. You see me across the crowded room, make your way over, and start talking at me. And you don’t stop.

You are a Democrat, an outspoken atheist, and a foodie. You like to say “Science!” in a weird, self-congratulatory way. You wear jeans during the day, and fancy jeans at night. You listen to music featuring wispy lady vocals and electronic bloop-bloops.

You really like coffee, except for Starbucks, which is the worst. No wait—Coke is the worst! Unless it’s Mexican Coke, in which case it’s the best.

Pixar. Kitty cats. Uniqlo. Bourbon. Steel-cut oats. Comic books. Obama. Fancy burgers.

You listen to the same five podcasts and read the same seven blogs as all your pals. You stay up late on Twitter making hashtagged jokes about the event that everyone has decided will be the event about which everyone jokes today. You love to send withering @ messages to people like Rush Limbaugh—of course, those notes are not meant for their ostensible recipients, but for your friends, who will chuckle and retweet your savage wit.

You are boring. So, so boring.

Don’t take it too hard. We’re all boring. At best, we’re recovering bores. Each day offers a hundred ways for us to bore the crap out of the folks with whom we live, work, and drink. And on the internet, you’re able to bore thousands of people at once.

Hitchens and John Lennox at the “Is God Great?” debate in Alabama. If there’s a more apt photograph of someone Not Accepting The Premise, I’d like to see it.

Hitchens and John Lennox at the “Is God Great?” debate in Alabama. If there’s a more apt photograph of someone Not Accepting The Premise, I’d like to see it.

Would you be upset if the dominating belief system in your country was Scientology? Would you be angered that your laws were dictated by something that you can only see as completely ridiculous? Would you be upset for being ostracized because you refuse to get regular E-meter testing done? Would you get sick of the moderate scientologists saying that they’re ok, but the crazies give them a bad name? How much would you like to be called an insensitive asshole for expressing your belief that there is no such thing as Xenu?

From the threads of /r/atheism on Reddit, argument given to a Christian trying to say God is not the issue, it’s organized religion. This is how atheists are treated in America. I myself have never been treated this way for my lack of belief, but I know it’s waiting for me. (via bulletproofcupid)

(Source: reddit.com)

On drowning bibles

yellowbricks:

When I saw your picture the other day, I found it surprisingly alarming, I think both because it’s a book (any book) being destroyed on the basis of someone’s objection to its content

generic:

I’d stop you there. Not just content, context. I’m destroying a book because it’s infringing on my personal consumer space. (Sounds lame, but I can’t think of a better phrase.)

yellowbricks:

and because it’s widely considered a sacred text. I understand that it’s not sacred to you, of course, but as we saw when Terry Jones recently tried to make “International Burn a Koran Day” happen, the destruction of any such work generally stirs up a lot of emotion for what are surely obvious reasons. 

generic:

I reject that equivalence. Terry Jones wants to burn Korans out of existence. I just want them out of my hotel room. I don’t even want them out of all hotel rooms—just mine. If I could choose “non-bible” along with “non-smoking” I’d have no quarrel.

It’s the difference between exterminating the mice from your bedroom and trying to exterminate all mice from the Earth’s ecosystem. (I’m not even sure that analogy is fair to mice.)

yellowbricks:

I’m not attempting to convince you to change your strategy, you understand, just asking you to consider what your gesture looks like and feels like from a different perspective.

generic:

I’ve considered it. I understand it’s inflammatory. That’s why I do it. It’s why I’ve posted it on the Internet. I wonder if you understand the inflammation cuts both ways.

A plea for empathy asks me to consider their insertion of dogma into my space as a neutral act, while my rejection “stirs up a lot of emotion.”

Their gesture, their book, in my room, is offensive to me as a non-believer. I want them to stop doing it. When that respect is returned, I’ll stop watering the Adventures of Jewish Zombie Wizard. 

yellowbricks:

I understand your greater point and appreciate your frustration with having someone else’s religion thrust upon you in that manner. I hope you know that my question was sincere. Thank you for explaining.

generic:

Look, I get it. We’re Americans. Anytime people start destroying books, the red warning lights start blinking. It smells like the spirit of tolerance is burning. But the Nazis torched books because they wanted to make those books disappear. I’m throwing out the junk mail. Want me to stop throwing out junk mail? Stop mailing it to me. Stop pairing my purchase with your fruitcake.

There are many, many books with objectionable content. I don’t really care about them until they’re thrust into my personal sphere. If the fortune cookie bothers me, I can stop getting Chinese takeout, you dig?

And honestly, I don’t feel like you gave my religious or political counterexamples enough weight. Let’s use sexism:

Imagine placing a copy of Hustler in your rental car, because that’s just what they do with all rental cars, and what’s the big deal? Imagine you couldn’t rent transportation in America without the attendant porn.

Would you find the destruction of said porn “surprisingly alarming”? I don’t think you would. And I don’t think you’d be content with mere disposal. I think you’d be marshaling all sorts of arguments in protest. And if someone asked you to consider how your gesture looks to the porn-purveyor, I think you might start throwing heat.